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Dyson's Social Media Abortion (Case Study). Updated 25 May 2010 (at end)

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Over at my other blog: UsabilityHell.com  I ran a post about why the Dyson Airblade is no good. Now that's my personal opinion (not TATBs) - but it threw up a fascinating set of comments.

In a nutshell Dyson engaged very quickly and I was quickly impressed with this engagement - thinking 'wow, Dyson get it'.

Although I'd used quite (jokingly) harsh language in the post - they fed back some well argued points and presented their case well.

So - big thumbs up to Dyson then?

Yes, for a few days.

This all changed when Mitsubishi (maker of the similar Jet Towel product) came back (thx to @FastlecRob for the nudge) with some good counter arguements.

Great - a healthy discussion?

Here is a quote from what Dyson came back with

We entered this conversation looking to locate a faulty machine and clarifying what we felt were factually misleading statements. We feel that the direction that this thread is going in will go nowhere (apart from some interesting fodder for you, Nick) and we're not willing to play, I'm afraid.

oh dear.

This attitude was fine in the 20th century when big corporations controlled the message. It's a shame Dyson is a bit late.

"we're not willing to play, I'm afraid."
Everybody else is playing without you Dyson, sorry.

Companies - we are talking about you whether you like it or not. You can be involved in the conversation - constructively as Dyson seemingly was to begin with (although it now just looks like they were using me to find their dirty machine) - or people can say anything they want about you - right or wrong - and you can bury your head in the sand.

I also think Dyson is wrong - the conversation wasn't going nowhere - quite the reverse. Mitsubishi made some key points against them about noise levels & drying time. It just looks like Dyson threw their toys out of the pram and went crying home to mummy.

There's another lesson here. You can't be half in & half out of this. You have to fully commit to engagement - and stay committed - stay involved in the message - and for God's sake stay civil. Why the hostility Dyson? We're not individuals you can abuse anymore - we all have a voice and we're using it!

You have to be on form ALL THE TIME now. If you drop the ball ONCE the democratized voice of the internet can use it against you forever. But not playing is also not an option - your competitors are or will be using social channels to build an adoring customer base, spread their message, correct inaccuracies and have fun! (all hail @zappos).

Your only defence is sticking to strong core principles such as openness, honesty, civility and genuinely caring about your customers.

 

The world has fundamentally changed. Those who keep up will win.

 


Updated 25 May 2010 ********************************

What's the point of PR & Social Media Engagement? Something like:

  1. Listening to feedback / fixing problems.
  2. Fostering good will with customers & users.
  3. Building relationships & rapport.
  4. Having a smile - being positive, open, likeable, honest - trying to help.
  5. Having some fun!


Wading into a comment thread, engaging a bit - then 'not playing' and bluntly stating you're only trying to find your faulty machine - I don't think that fulfils the above do you?

It lowered my good will towards them so much I wrote a blog post about it!

 

I spoke to Dyson who gave the following 2 reasons for the final comment.

 

1. Can't talk about competitors for 'legal reasons'

This is a policy Dyson have decided to follow internally. I think that's a mistake.

If you're passionate & proud of your product - you should be willing to swing from the rafters shouting about it. To say to your competition 'bring it'! To embrace social media, to rouse your cheer leaders and state your case.

Sure you need legal cover - but thats all doable if the will is there. This is a cop out.

Mitsubishi managed it - why can't Dyson?

 

2. Felt we were going round in circles

They could end it at any time. It need not 'go in circles' - but they can end more gracefully than they did. There were also good points on noise they seemed reluctant to acknowledge.

 

 

 

Why Dyson's Comment is Bad

It's not about 'getting into a slanging match' with a competitor. It's about stating their case - and their tone & intent.

 

Hi all,

We entered this conversation looking to locate a faulty machine and clarifying what we felt were factually misleading statements.

subtext: We aren't interested in engaging, just using you to find our machine.

We feel that the direction that this thread is going in will go nowhere

They feel threatened when a competitor mentions a relative weakness of their device - so no longer wish to engage.

(apart from some interesting fodder for you, Nick) and we're not willing to play, I'm afraid.

play - this trivialises social media - and specifically my blog. Yeah my blog probably is trivial but come on - telling a blogger that is never going to go down well ;)

This presupposes that Dyson's customers can get no value from this conversation - I disagree.

It's also arrogant & undermines all the good work they already did. I sense frustration here - hostility - a PR person pulling back, going back to mass media ways because they aren't getting their way. A momentary lapse.

Even if you think this way (which you shouldn't) - you can phrase it much better!

Mitubishielectric - we are open to have conversations about dry times and other standards for the hand dryer market.

Hold on - no you're not?! You just pulled out - that's what we're trying to do here. Are you suggesting you want to have a private conversation with a competitor?!?!

Why?! It's media but not very social.

 

This post simply reinforces the fact that in a decidedly unregulated market it's very hard for people to differentiate between truth and false-hoods.

We'd encourage you to get in touch.

Best wishes,
Dyson

 

You'll notice they don't even mention any legal restrictions. They do make a follow up comment which is a little better - but the post above really is a huge slip and its out there forever.

 

 

Alternate response 1
(Sticking to 'legal restriction' of not talking about competition)

Hi all

We are reading all the posts here with interest & love to see such a lively debate in a previously rather un-exciting space (hand dryers).

We feel passionately that our product is the best out there - not least because of the combination of dry time, hygiene, noise & technology. We have all our figures & reports online here.

Unfortunately we are unable to keep talking about this - our legal department says we can't - but we have taken on board all your opinions - we never stop listening to our customers and work tirelessly to give you all better products every day.

We will be incorporating improvements to the Airblade design soon.

Good luck with the blog Nick - look forward to more posts soon; and hopefully more positive ones about Dyson ;)

 

Thanks
Dyson

 

This achieves all the same goals for Dyson - they pull out - but do so politely, appear humble - and this blog post is never written. This is basic stuff.

It also links to data on drying times that they keep mentioning - but can't be seen anywhere.

 

 

Alternate response 2
(No self imposed 'legal restriction')

Hi all

We are reading all the posts here with interest & love to see such a lively debate in a previously rather un-exciting space (hand dryers).

We feel passionately that our product is the best out there - not least because of the combination of dry time, hygiene, noise & technology. We have all our figures & reports online here.

Whilst we respect Mitsubishi, our product is the only product with a HEPA filter and we believe tests show our machine is more power efficient and faster. The XLerator is also 100dB - ouch. We also use revolutionary technology to scrape water from the hands - we believe our machine is by far the best overall design.

We hear you on the noise - it's something we're working hard to improve in future models. Watch this space for an even better Airblade really soon!

Good luck with the blog Nick - look forward to more posts soon; and hopefully more positive ones about Dyson ;)

 

Thanks
Dyson

 

It's humble, it rises above everything, it ends the exchange but leaves a nice taste in the mouth. It states why they believe they have the best machine - but acknowledges its not perfect (people already know this - companies that are big enough to acknowledge their shortcomings are respected).

But perhaps more importantly - it shows respect to everyone who commented & the blogger. It shows positive intention and no hostility.

Surely the point in social media engagement & PR generally is to foster good will with customers. The above comment achieves that. Theirs did the opposite.

 

There are other interesting points to make here beyond the scope of this blog - such as the independence of the NSF testing (Dyson is involved apparently). The Jet Towel was launched 1993 & Airblade in 2006. Dyson's willingness to sue people that copy its vacuum cleaner designs.

 

Suffice to say - this has been an interesting case study for everyone.

 

Was I Too Harsh? What Could I Have Done Better?

UsabilityHell.com - being harsh is what it does - it's partly humourous and I don't apologise.

The title of this post is a double meaning - partially referring to Dyson's aborted engagement. Perhaps it can come across a bit OTT?

In fairness to Dyson they are probably way ahead of most companies on Social Media.

I should re-state that I think they did a lot right at first - many companies wouldn't engage at all. The problem is they didn't stay on message throughout - they slipped - and that can be worse than not engaging. Companies need to be Insanely Great right?

While I had some doubts at first - I now think I was fully justified.

I should have kept the comments on UH a bit more light hearted in keeping with the blog's style - it got quite serious and geeky.

My take away from this is that we're all still figuring it out, every situation like this is fascinating and a useful learning experience for us all.

 

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Comments (21)

May 18, 2010
Karim said...
Interesting post Nick, I think this line is fundamental to brands successfully leveraging social media

"You can't be half in & half out of this. You have to fully commit to engagement - and stay committed"

May 18, 2010
filipmatous said...
Haha, so once counter arguments go up, "we're not willing to play." Perhaps it was an unpaid Dyson intern who wrote that? Either way, shame they didn't communicate to the end as you could have used them as an example of a brand that gets it. Instead they get this post. Shame.
May 19, 2010
 said...
I don't agree with you.

It's perfectly reasonable for Dyson to decide as a brand that it does not wish to get into a fight with a competitor. Perhaps it's not in their corporate culture. Perhaps they don't have the resource internally to commit to debate beyond the initial point. I don't know.

But in principle I don't see anything wrong in a corporation - or an individual - deciding that they no longer wish to participate in an online debate because it's not important to them or because they've got something better to do.

At least they were clear and up front with you. They could have just ignored it and gone away. For that, they should be praised.

May 20, 2010
Nick Donnelly said...
Good comments Filip & Karim.

So what you're saying Matthew is Dyson can say whatever they want?

Of course they can - if they don't value their corporate image that would be a great move (are you in PR?).

I will be updating this post with their continued response & analysis - but suffice to say, staying civil & calm under pressure are basic PR fundamentals.

They failed on that most basic level. In our new social world - everyone sees your failure.

May 20, 2010
 said...
Mostly what I was saying was that I thought this was a borderline case - that I wasn't completely certain either way.

My impression of Dyson is formed mostly on the basis of the quality of the product, then a but around how they treat customers and then a smaller bit around their company (are they still innovative?) and are they treating core stakeholders well (employees, environment)?

So in this instance, my impression was harmed because they had a shabby product but improved because they engaged with you and suggested it was broken / poorly serviced but then not affected because they withdrew from the conversation (because they offered an explanation).

But that's just my personal view.

May 20, 2010
Nick Donnelly said...
I certainly don't think they did everything wrong - as I say in the article - they started well.

It was the fact they stopped 'playing the game' - coupled with the arrogant, public, dismissive way in which they did it - that I think is the big #FAIL here.

May 21, 2010
Mark Edmondson said...
I for one respect Dyson for not wanting to lower themselves to an internet slanging match because of a troll post, that may or may not have been done by the brand in question.
May 21, 2010
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May 21, 2010
Nick Donnelly said...
Thanks for the comment.

I suggest you read my previous responses and the coming post update for what I think they did wrong.

I am not suggesting a slanging match - just common courtesy - is that too much to ask?

May 21, 2010
LordManley said...
Dyson got it spot on by answering the initial complaint directly but not being drawn into a petty slanging match.
May 21, 2010
Mark Edmondson said...
I read all the interesting comments Nick, I was just chipping in that as a social media excercise, my perception of Dyson is improved by their behaviour rather than diminished.
May 21, 2010
Nick Donnelly said...
Do either of you have any connection to Dyson or this industry?
May 21, 2010
Hugh Wallace said...
I agree with Mark's point above - I followed @econsultancy's post on this then read the other posts and comments. I think Dyson pitched it right and took a reasonable judgement on not getting into a 'my product's better than yours' debate, which would've been a very peculiar position for a brand to take on someone else's blog.

As for their lack of civility/common courtesy, I'm not seeing it Nick, I thought their responses were unambiguous and fair + far more transparent than the POV I suspect a lot of other organisations would take.

May 21, 2010
lukosan said...
Sorry Nick, I'm with Manley, Hugh, Mark etc. on this one. I think Dyson's initial response (and desire to fix their machine) was both responsible and measured (in comparison to the, as you said, harsh language used in the original post).

At some point companies do realise that they can't please everyone and that it makes more sense to "fire" the occasional customer who's more trouble than they're worth viz. you.

"So what you're saying Matthew is Dyson can say whatever they want?"

Yes, they can - and should. It's good to see a company have the integrity to stand up for themselves instead of pandering to people's highly subjective whingings.

Thumbs up Dyson.

May 21, 2010
grayscale100 said...
That slanging matches, lack of civility and common courtesy should be deplored is admirable. I couldn't agree more. Describing product as 'shit' and communication policy as 'abortion', in headlines, is harsh, but not funny - merely lacking in civility and common courtesy, as well as style, wit and imagination. It also makes clear that there is no hope of informed opinion, merely prejudice.

It's easy to write, for example, 'Nick Donnelly is a shit abortion of a writer' on the basis of having read two very poorly argued, appallingly headlined, stupidly biased rants against a product and a brand - not that I ever would, of course! - ; but less facile to research, consider and - crucial this, in the all new rah-rah social media uber alles world of " openness, honesty, civility and genuinely caring about your customers [readers]" - engage with the material, actions and personalities of those I wish to criticise.

Online has opened everything up and it's great that individuals and groups can call organisations out on their shortcomings. It has not legitimised slinging shit, or indeed abortions, as a means of constructive discourse. Dyson have behaved well here. You, sir, have behaved like a prize cock. Desist, I say.

May 21, 2010
Mark Edmondson said...
Nope no connection with Dyson apart from I used one of those hand dryers once and thought it was pretty neat :) I think anyone who has been active on a web forum knows in the end it is better not to feed the trolls! Dyson showed a good bit of web-savviness in that IMO, which to a webgeek like myself gets a big green tick :ø)
May 21, 2010
chrissharp said...
Agree, Dyson did everything right by answering the initial complaint.

And then did everything right again by not feeding the competition brand... and your blog.

Also, just because people dont agree with your POV doesn't mean they automatically have to work for Dyson! ;)

May 25, 2010
Nick Donnelly said...
post updated above - addressing comments & adding suggested improvements for Dyson
May 25, 2010
Dyson_tweets said...
Hi Nick,

It was good to speak on the phone last week and although we have slightly differing opinions on approaches, we seem to be in agreement that comments on blogs can be construed in different ways. The ‘withdrawal statement’ that you’re referencing was not meant to appear rude/abrupt/arrogant, and it’s a shame that you took it that way. Your suggested responses above are helpful. Thank you.

This has obviously been an interesting experience for Dyson and something that we’ll learn from in the future. Will it stop us engaging with people online in the future? Absolutely not. Will we do things differently next time? It’d all depend on the situation to be honest. We cannot apply hard and fast rules for everyone and to everything because experience tells us that won’t work. Instead, we’ll continue to do things in a way that feels right for Dyson.

Thanks again to you and everybody on this blog (and others) for your considered replies.

Best wishes,
Dyson

May 25, 2010
Nick Donnelly said...
I agree that it's situation dependent; which is where strong principles come in & keeping in mind the purpose for being there.

Thanks for your comments Dyson.

May 25, 2010
S2DigitalMedia said...
I thought Dyson did a great job. Were they a little rude at the end? Possibly, but I think it was more someone trying to be clever & casual within the social media space.

Dyson answered the questions, and then when it digressed into a match with their competition, they knew that there was a better place to do it than someone's blog post comments section.

I agree that you have to be all in when you go into social media, but that doesn't mean you have to respond to every comment, all the time, and continue talking as long as someone talks at you. Dyson knew when the conversation was no longer fruitful, so they backed off -- but they didn't leave, they stayed on, and moved the conversation in a new direction (like with posting in the comments here). Bravo to Dyson all around.

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